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Posted: 30 April 2007 02:20 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Can anyone give me some infos about this compilation? I did dl it and would like to know if it is available as an LP (or CD) since it has Martial Canterel - three days on it. And I want that song on a record. thank you.

 
Posted: 04 May 2007 07:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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damp caves

this was a brief proposal made by epee du bois for an album that never went anywhere…this is a Last.fm fiction…

 
Posted: 05 May 2007 01:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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pity. but thanks for the info.

 
Posted: 05 May 2007 03:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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“3 days ”  appears on the Sister Age Cassette…with a possible vinyl release planned for the future…


cassettes…hmmmm… perhaps the most egalitarian format…

 
Posted: 05 May 2007 05:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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egalitarian as in: if you wait long enough, they all sound alike?  :wink:

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Posted: 05 May 2007 05:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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do you mean to say that the general physical magnetism which exists everywhere in our world will one day render all audio cassettes a muddled hissy murmur

 
Posted: 06 May 2007 07:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Basically, yes. Sans the eloquence.

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Posted: 07 May 2007 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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[quote author=“nuit-exterieur”]do you mean to say that the general physical magnetism which exists everywhere in our world will one day render all audio cassettes a muddled hissy murmur

Like the bees and the cellphone towers.  Entropy takes its toll.

 
Posted: 07 May 2007 06:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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or more aptly,  the “digital” takes its toll ; )

 
Posted: 07 May 2007 10:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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[quote author=“nuit-exterieur”]or more aptly,  the “digital” takes its toll ; )

Does it, though?
remember this one:
http://www.minimal-wave.org/site/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=389

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Posted: 08 May 2007 06:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Exactly my point…this device is like a little Kevorkian “death machine” for the cassette…recall the end of soylent Green, or the carbon freeze in Cloud City…; )—-

 
Posted: 08 May 2007 07:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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[quote author=“nuit-exterieur”]Exactly my point…this device is like a little Kevorkian “death machine” for the cassette…recall the end of soylent Green, or the carbon freeze in Cloud City…; )—-

It’s people!!!!

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Posted: 08 May 2007 08:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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[quote author=“cr-78”][quote author=“nuit-exterieur”]Exactly my point…this device is like a little Kevorkian “death machine” for the cassette…recall the end of soylent Green, or the carbon freeze in Cloud City…; )—-

It’s people!!!!

Points to consider in the ontology of the cassette:

• It is physical.  You can put it down, pick up where you left off, like a book.  It is thus capable of being intimate with you (or vice-versa), in the most platonic way of course.  A CD, to a lesser extent—it already is the avatar of data.  And then: the MP3, on an iPod: pure data, divorced from physicality.  When you play it, you have to think of “data” and are thus removed from the physical, intimate world.  Thus: the cassette—which I admittedly haven’t used in a long time, although I grew up with them—retains an advantage.

• Regarding the disintegration of magnetic materials: all flesh is grass, and we all will, say in 60 years or so, pass the way of the chrome oxide on your TDK.  Physical things are mortal.  All must return to the realm of data (we may envision “data” as a sort of godhead, or universal One here).  Thus: data (MP3’s, etc) also have an advantage, being (for all intents and purposes) immortal: data, having abandoned intimacy and the physical, lasts forever.  Score one for the iPod

• The choice is not only a musical one, but a metaphysical one, as pointed out above.  Where the bees fit into this isn’t exactly clear, but we’ve got a Cray down in the basement running the numbers.  I suppose it’s cassettes if you’re a carnalist, iPods for those seeking the godhead. I leave it to you to come up with a musical equivalent for the Rapture, and it ain’t Soylent Green.

 
Posted: 09 May 2007 02:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Points to consider in the ontology of the cassette:

• Regarding the disintegration of magnetic materials: all flesh is grass

There, exactly, you condense into four words why I spend so much time recording old cassettes to CD-R; when music is converted to data files, at least the music will survive after the physical container - and even the format - dies.

although I agree with you re the “physical” aspect (I am after all a collector), I do not play my cassettes except to record them digitally.

I have recorded some music that I think existed in one copy only, it is now salvaged for posteriority. So format is only part of the discussion - the tapes are running out of time.

 
Posted: 09 May 2007 02:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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.....and the temple of the holy tape was born…..

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Posted: 09 May 2007 03:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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[I have recorded some music that I think existed in one copy only, it is now salvaged for posteriority. So format is only part of the discussion - the tapes are running out of time.] reactorlgtn


The function of the collector is to archive, keep records, manage data if you will; a necesssary and important undertaking - and one i owe a great deal ...but as for the future of music, “the tapes are running out of time” augurs eerily of a system of exchange and production which fully forecloses on the physical.  If all tapes disintegrate and vinyl lathes go out of production the position of the collector becomes tenuous…As i mentioned to Spartak the other day, with cassette recording and production one retains the trace of the hand, the indelible happenstances of the musician and his/her studio. This, I realise, is veering off the topic, but its in these details that the micro-narratives and atmospheres are generated which lie crucial to preserving one’s music; preserving music…

Hasn’t anyone ever had a hard drive crash?  ; )

 
   
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