Minimal Wave Records

Chevalier, did you buy it around a year ago on ebay? In that case you bought it from me :D

But could you check the review if it mentions the name ‘coldwave’ ?

No, I didn’t buy it on ebay, I’ve got this record for a very long time! I will check the review.

New M.W. member.

Hmm, (re-post) 
  I think ‘‘Minimal Wave’‘, is a good genre name, for this music.
  I believe it to be, hidden somewhere near the 80s New Wave scene.
  Seems, that most all Artists featured on this site
  had an indie record label to work from, which is great.
  I don’t know if this is possible nowadays’. As for genres,
  I’m still getting a feeling for them, as I don’t always know what
  kinda music I am listening to. All this (including the site) are helpful!
  Helps, to sum it all up ... In the last few years, I just get
  a good idea of where to look for this Minimal music.
  Though, some tracks have such a strong/layer of sound, its hard
  to imagine them sounding anything but minimal.  :wink:
  “Did you get that last line, I dont”

Re: New M.W. member.

[quote author=“JoakTree”]
I thought, Cold-Wave was a French genre only?
Who used the term Gothic?
I never herd of Gothic music used as a music genre, untill 1990’s,
did anyone use it in the 80’s? (I wouldn’t know)
`JoakTree`

In my opinion cold-wave comes from the UK with groups like Echo & the Bunnymen, The Cure and as the reference of the genre I should point out Joy Division. Then the wave spread out all over Europe, like for instance in Belgium groups like Siglo XX, De Brassers, Struggler, AA, De Kommeniste, Cultural Decay, Red Zebra and many more. The term Gothic was already used in the eighties for groups like Fields of The Nephilim, Christian Death, X Mal Deutschland and of course the one and only Bauhaus.

But isnt there a distinction between cold wave and dark wave? I would put groups like The Cure, Xymox, X Mal, Kirlian Camera, Nine Circles under the dark wave (gothic) moniker…

As to electro & hiphop: I notice it are mostly the people from the hiphop & techno community that equal electro = electro-funk = instrumental hiphop.
For me, there is the holy trinity of electronic wave, funk & disco.

Okay, one reason I asked about the term Gothic, is that
  in all reviews I read about Cocteau Twins or X-mal,
  (my two favorite bands). And noone
  wrote them as gothic (In 80’s mag or interview) only PUNK…
  First time I read the word gothic for music was I think
  Nico, but it was from the mid-90’s.
  So, I never herd or read the term Gothic.
  only new wave or eightes band… or punk/post punk.
  I never herd the term Coldwave, only online.
  but I have herd Darkwave many times. Seems like
  the genres are expanding over the years, possibly.
  I don’t try hard to label music. I try to label it simple, rather.
  hehhe.
  Hey Spartak! You mentioned Nine Circles,
  did they ever have a second album, are they Dutch?
  Bio’s and Discogs for many indie bands are hard to find.
  but the Nine Circles album was ear medicine.  :!:

@Joak: probably they are dutch, since all their songs have been released on dutch compilations (Radionome, Colonial Vipers) with afaik dutch artists only.

Allot of good postings have cornered the genre…“minimal”
  Being a founding member of Experimental Products…
  I have pondered…  what is minimal ?

  What is Minimal Wave…?  think Queen Elisabeth
  Cold Wave…?  think Princess Di
  OK….  Bad jokes tend to suggest “minimal” maturity…
 
  but….  Defining plain old “minimal” is tricky…
  Minimal anything can be subjective…
  But as the word implies…. minimal means less…
  There are traits that suggest… minimal.
  A single trait can be all thats needed…
  Here are some traits I link to minimal…
 
  Song arraingment…
  Songs with verses, choruses, bridges ect. do not suggest minimal… 
  A song with few progressions and tends to stay in a grove has
  a minimal arraingment and thus… less notes to get wrong… ~
  Young, minimal talent bands tend to keep things simple…

  Instrumentaion and multi-track sense…
  What is generating the sounds…? How many sounds…?
  and how are they driven…?
  If the choices are many and just a mouse click away… minimal
  is still possible… but will take discipline to avoid excess…
  When synths were synced to a running
  drum-machine only a few sounds could be sequenced…
  This forced a minimal approach for the low budget recording…
  Don’t get me wrong… Midi and virtual synths are a miracle…
  Neat and tighty…
  It’s true however… minimal choices produce minimal results…

    Musicianship…
    Those clasically trained or with virtuoso talent tend to avoid minimal…
    It’s not in their nature… So non-musicianship breeds minimal…
    Keep it simple for simple people…  ~

   
    Experimental Products delt with early synth technology…
    We worked with 8 track recording on our first two releases…
    I can see how we can be labled minimal…
    But… having delt with Mark Wilde’s song arraingments…
    minimal did’nt always enter my mind…
    His songs were written to exploit the power of note change…
    I would struggle to follow his songs leaps and changes…
    My chops were “minimal”...
    I tended to write the minimal arraingment songs…
    I would sway Mark into simpler parts for me to play…
    or… ask his advice when I needed a nice change in a song…
    Our music chemistry and technology combined to produce a
    minimal flavor…

    I really like big splashy tracks that are tasty… Dance, Rock or Pop…
    They have always lured my attention…
    It’s hard to resist the splash and keep things….  minimal…

    Michael G.

Nice!
Welcome Michael!
And thank you for the good music.

There’s also 2 kinds of minimalism. Songs… or false songs that revolves around 1 or 2 notes max and that repeat it too much… and real songs with chorus, bridges, break, etc… The 4-track recorded was a limit of course, but it kept the core of a song. An empty music on 48-tracks remains empty, while a constructed 4-tracks one can create a miracle.

Consequently, on the Flam player of MW, I have been deceived by many “1 note song”. the “Minimal” trademark musn’t hide lazyness or lack of inspiration, acording to me.

Well, Punk was very similar. I don’t think they were lazy. They just didn’t know how to play
And so it’s the same thing with “minimal”
It’s the subtleness that makes it great. The simplicity!

An empty music on 48-tracks remains empty, while a constructed 4-tracks one can create a miracle.

Agree 100%