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No Surrender Vol 1 Inkl Minimal Synth Track
Posted: 05 February 2008 12:07 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hello i have this Record in very good condition for sale. No Surrender Vol 1. Almost all bands on it are Skin Oi bands…But it holds one Minimal Synth / Post Punk track from the band Final Sound - Genetics. This is a very rare and hard to find record. So i dont want to sell it if i dont get a good price for it…

Here you can download the song that i talking about

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C8E648953B765BC3

/krister

 
Posted: 05 February 2008 03:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Wow, this song sounds fantastic!

If the rest of the record is similar I might consider your offer.

Can you please post more info?

 
Posted: 05 February 2008 04:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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This is a Skinhead Rock Compilation….There is one more song that have a little bit postpunk in the sound…The other is punkrock and oi stuff…..

I dont really know what this song doing on this compilation from the beginning….And not the other eather hehe.wink

/krister

 
Posted: 08 February 2008 09:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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very interested. What you you want for it? also swap? please pm!

 
Posted: 09 February 2008 01:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Hi there..i got the Lp sold last day…so i dont have it any longer…

 
Posted: 09 February 2008 03:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Could one ask what this LP sells for?

 
Posted: 09 February 2008 07:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I sold my copy for 50 euro…..And i think that is a price you can find the album for…

 
Posted: 11 February 2008 03:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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So someone has paid 50 € for a compilation full of rightwing/white pride bands like Skrewdriver or Brutal Attack, just to own only one halfway decent synth/wave song?  rolleyes

 
Posted: 11 February 2008 05:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Yes thats right….

im not sure if the album is a political album….I know that some of the bands included on the compilation are now political…but i couldent see any symbols like that on the album. Or no titles that was political…

I think that the reason why Final Sound was included on the compilation was that many early synthbands flirted a lot with nazi Symbols and nazi cloats. And i also know that there was in the 80´s clubs for synth music and Skinheads music…I know it sounds weird. but it is true. And since the compilation is from 1985 i think that could be a reason why they was included on the compilation.

After all…i think that song is very good…And the other bands on the compilation are not good..wink But since the album has been sold out since many years i dont think you will support bands like skrewdriver, brutal attack if you buy a second hand copy.

And another thing that is interesting Is to see the historical on this. Was many other synth/minimal bands really nazis?. Or was it in this case just a missunderstanding from the label that released the album. Personally I think it was a missunderstanding. but who knows. And if it was a mistake. Isnt an album like this even funnier to own…:) To see how wrong people really could have…

In sweden we heard that Klinik was Nazis when they used “White Power” Symbols painted on their bodys when the played live in sweden. I think it was a provoke thing. I havent heard that they should be nazis after that.

DAF was also a nazi band….Cause they danced for Adolf Hitler..wink I dont think no one thinks they are nazis today.

And nitzer ebb wasflirting with Communist and Nazi symbols. But they was not nazis…Or maybe they are….The drummer boy bon is a skinhead even today hehe.wink

Pouppee Fabrikk closed down their live performance with singing the swedish national song. In a time when the goverment in sweden told swedish people that they was racists if they was singing this song. Was Pouppee fabrikk nazis?. I dont think so eather….But maybe they was..or maybe it was a provoke thing..smile

Well for me it dosent matter if a band is communists, nazis, africans, jews and so on. If they dont use political things in their songs only private. I can listening to them if i like their stuff.

I will not be a nazi if i own a record that holds 10 nazi bands and 1 synth/wave band. I will not listenting to the other tracks and change my minds for that.smile

But hey ....maybe this is just me and the boy that bought the album from me that think soo…

 
Posted: 11 February 2008 05:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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[quote author=“Claudia101”]So someone has paid 50 € for a compilation full of rightwing/white pride bands like Skrewdriver or Brutal Attack, just to own only one halfway decent synth/wave song?  rolleyes

Maybe somebody bought is despite that song :?:

 
Posted: 11 February 2008 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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What are the other bands on that comp, the label etc? Which year?
Any credits? Any cover to see and appreciate?

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Posted: 12 February 2008 01:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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[quote author=“Claudia101”]So someone has paid 50 € for a compilation full of rightwing/white pride bands like Skrewdriver or Brutal Attack, just to own only one halfway decent synth/wave song?  rolleyes

Exactly what I was thinking.

 
Posted: 12 February 2008 02:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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@ Echo_Frau

http://www.discogs.com/release/611025

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Posted: 12 February 2008 05:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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check here for some extra info:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3685318/Genetics_[MP3]_by_Final_Sound_-_NS_Electro___pop

they call it “NS electropop”  :!:

in other words: nazi stuff, just like I expected.
and with a tracktitle like “genetics” (in this context) it’s not exactly that they’re trying to hide what they’re about.

chinesetheatre, i do understand what you’re trying to say with the example of The Klinik and stuff like that, but in the case of this compilation the message of the included bands is pretty obvious grin

on the other hand, of course everyone is free to buy whatever he/she wants. even skinhead comps. however, personally I’d choose a million other records to spend my hardearned cash on…

 
Posted: 12 February 2008 09:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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hm you also find Tony Wakeford/Sol Invictus on this comp:
Above The Ruins - The Killing Zone


btw on ebay part 2 is sold as a picture disc, inc. Böhse Onkelz, really strange, but why should musicians using electronic gear better/worse then other humans…

 
Posted: 12 February 2008 12:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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In fact this is what i wondered, this comp is from 1985, so it is very patriotic.

I would prefere we don’t use the world ‘nazi” as for the UK scene, this word is really not appropriated, not for the culture, not for the mentality, for nothing simply.
Even if Rock-O-Rama Records released it (german label which became white power), we can’t say that they target was to appear as a nazi release (i understand what i mean, sorry for my english). LOL
It is like the french label Chaos Records from the 80s which involved his works/releases/story to become a part of the history of the division between the apolitical with the right wing punk/oi scene from that period.
I know, it got nothing to do with the topic but just to make clear that this “nazi” therme is not good at all for this case.
:oops:

Also, this period was still very naive and its bands as well. Sometimes some NS bands did even a great mixture of synth/punk cold wave stuff but….very patriotic in fact. I think it is just a question of decay and for sure, a provocation, or a reaction of the society of that period…
Look at Tony Wakeford, today he got nothing to do anymore with this, he was young and crazy. Nowedays he became a totally against-racist and antispecist man. Seems the historical and political events changes minds…(sometimes).

Thanks for the link Reactorlgtn. wink

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