Minimal Wave Records

Spartak said in the Twilight Ritual bootleg thread.

“i only know of the Night Moves GC2 forgery”

After reading this I would like to find out the difference between the bootleg and the original for the Night Moves GC2 12”.

Let me know.

obscure

oystein :?:

oh, ah, yes, well, I only know what our dear Spartak told me, and even that I don’t remember.

I half expected him to reply to this actually. Hope he’s away for a swim or something

Tell you what though: I’ll search my gmail and see if I can’t find what he wrote, and post it here.

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I,m not 100% sure as it seems after rereading my correspondance with michael he isnt entirely accurate himself but there appears to be a pinkish bootleg of the gc2 promo that says night moves trans dance instead of transdance (as seen on discogs). I know one person that definately has the right version but havent spoken him in a long time. I also think to remember nils has two versions of the gc2 promo so he seems the best place to inform for the differences.

Make sure to enlighten the rest of us as well!

I looked at the discogs copy, and compared it to my copy which I believe to be original.  My copy does say.

Night Moves
Trans Dance GC2

and it is stamped in about the same location.  The labels on my copy are white, and the lettering looks skinnier than the pink label one on discogs. 

The pinkish looking label might be a result of the camera, and lighting though, and the bulkiness of the lettering might be due to it being an early stamped copy.  So that might be an original copy as well. 

The copy I have also has “1983” hand written on it in red marker, and 44 rpm written on it in blue pen.  I can’t imagine someone would bootleg the record, and then start handwriting stuff on it with different writing instruments.  That makes me think that this copy is not a bootleg. 

The other reason I don’t think it is a bootleg is I won it from a swedish seller 4 years ago for a little over $100 and it was not listed very correctly on ebay. 

Also, back when you could see who was the under bidder I saw that I had outbid Scientronic.  Subsequently, when he decided to sell his collection he sent a list of everything he had which included The Night Moves GC2 12”.  I don’t imagine he would bid $110 on a bootleg if he already had the record.  He was most likely trying to win it for trade or to sell.

Also, if the GC2 12” was bootlegged then it seems there would be a copy on ebay once a week, and I never see it on ebay.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

obscure

GC2

Hi, i think this is correct, i also handle my copy from a seller in Sweden many years ago, long time before internet/Ebay era. it will not be any bootleg or so. NIGHT MOVES TRANS DANCE GC2. Just white label and nothing more! I like this one much!

No it’s definately not a discolorisation. I know 2 people incl the guy that posted the scan on discogs and it’s really pinkish. I’m surprised your copy also has written trans dance though, because i thought i was told some years ago to watch out for that.  Now i think i have mixed up origin and deduction based on what michael told me some years later.

The other guy that has a pinkish version says his copy has a stamp on the label with: hotsound records promo copy. Hotsound records was active in the late 80ies early 90ies and was known to do bootlegs. So if the pinkish version is a boot indeed it is likely to be around 20 yrs old already. It most definately is not a recent bootleg.

Hotsound was a rotterdam based label and i also got the rumor from there so i think it’s not only smoke.  The pinkish version coincidentally seems to turn up mostly on dutch fleamarkets

Also if you check the recessed inner ring of the discogs scan it looks like a typical dutch vinyl pressing. I’m sure your copy has a different less recessed inner ring?

Another thing tho’

The GC2 white label (aka the pinkish label) - does this have other mixes of the tracks than GCT2?

Same mixes only nightdrive as an extra.

Not sure if the pink booty has the same tracks but i think it has judging by discogs.